peace to you all!.
for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).
i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.
You know, I couldn't even read this.
I mean, i tried. I read it over and over and without having read any other comments yet, all I can say is that I now understand what Orwell might have meant when he described a certain type of speech like that of a duck quacking....
allow me to extend a minute amount of symapthy to the forum members who waited with excitement the recent special jw meeting and attended.
perhaps it met your expectations?.
and, i almost, repeat, almost, feel sorry for those poor sods who deem it necessary to read the so called 'new' jw bible translation, and searching for all of the 'differences' from past releases.
Holy Cheeses, you said, "..... I enjoy reading about the depth of the crap that jws immerse themselves. I love learning of the grief that befalls jws due to their 'adherence to the faith'...."
We'll, if you enjoy reading about the 'depth of crap' and love learning of the 'grief that befalls JWs', then you, sir, are contemptible and lacking in compassion and basic human decency. I realize some of us are still learning or trying to figure out what that even means, but let this reaction help teach you about what that means....
http://www.amazon.com/i-wept-rivers-babylon-ebook/dp/b00fmhq4gk/ref=sr_1_1_title_0_main?s=books&ie=utf8&qid=1380884339&sr=1-1&keywords=i+wept+by+the+rivers+of+babylon+terry+walstrom.
i wept by the rivers of babylon is now instantly availabe at amazon.. i published the 6x9 trade paperback version last monday and the e-book book (non-kindle) versions.. http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/m0rtslaw.
i hope the decent reviews are posted before the customary savage knee-jerk jehovah's witness crew jumps on and finds the juggular.. .
Whew, that was a bit tricky for me, lol. Amazon does not have a kindle version yet, so I went to Lulu, but couldn't open your book (I am on a Mac) till I downloaded the ePub Reader app.
So, am off to read your book now! Congratulations on your book, Terry. :)
From what show is this, please?
# 3 newbie post.
first of all, the newbies have set a record here!.
have you ever seen a 4pg post where 21 new members reply!
I don't post very often, but read here almost every day! Love this place and the wealth of info which can be found when searching the site.
And welcome all the newbies! It is quite a journey, having your mind start to see beyond "the veil".... The JWs would say that *we* are veiled, or seeing through veils, etc., but there are more veils than we know, lol. We start to see beyond the black and white thinking of the org, and it's quite amazing... It's almost like being re-born... like seeing the world open up again, and the "world" is really beautiful and amazing and full of discovery and wonders and wonderful things. (Yes, there are bad stuff and things, but that is usually a minority and NOT the majority, as JWs would have you believe!)
You will see. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5schopnecog.
it's difficult to imagine how this video could be more disingenuous and hypocritical.
cedars.
I think the WTS has paid a lot of money to R & D and outside advertisers.
If they really did come up with this by themselves, they must be as deluded as ever to say such things. Because we all know how they can talk out of both sides of their mouth and totally believe both things.
i am very happy that my dear old mom is finally seeing the truth about the "truth".
what hit her like a ton of bricks is the latest wt.
study article that exalts the governing body and pretty much negates everything the bible students and russell, the founder of the watchtower, ever said was truth!.
If she has a lot of years invested in the WTBTS, this could be hard going for her as well. All her friends are there, and more family members?
So be gentle. She may not want to leave the congregation, especially if it has been giving her a lot of support. Bug good to see she is seeing beyond their bull-pucky. Just go slow. Walk gently, make sure she has a lot of support and love.
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so, according to the new light, as presented at the agm (annual general meeting) last year in october 2012, (and being studied from the july 15/2013 wt in this month of september), whereby the faithful & discrete slave (fds) is now designated to mean the governing body only (and only when they come together as a group!!
haha, what rubbish!
) -- this is what i'm understanding:.
Yes, you all make some good points. Sigh. Just.... dang. I mean, Rutherford. Rutherford, of all people! JWs are supposed to accept that out of ALL the people on the earth, Jesus chose him. I just keep shaking my head. My mind boggles.
so, according to the new light, as presented at the agm (annual general meeting) last year in october 2012, (and being studied from the july 15/2013 wt in this month of september), whereby the faithful & discrete slave (fds) is now designated to mean the governing body only (and only when they come together as a group!!
haha, what rubbish!
) -- this is what i'm understanding:.
So, according to the new light, as presented at the AGM (Annual General Meeting) last year in October 2012, (and being studied from the July 15/2013 WT in this month of September), whereby the Faithful & Discrete Slave (FDS) is now designated to mean the Governing Body only (and only when they come together as a group!! haha, what rubbish!) -- this is what I'm understanding:
- Jesus arrived (invisibly, hahaha, more joke!) in 1914 and went about on an inspection of alllll the religions on the earth.
- After four years of invisibly inspecting allll the religions on the earth, he finally designated and found one person on the earth whom he could approve. This person is now known as the very first Faithful & Discrete Slave. BEHOLD! That person is...
*drum roll*
Judge Rutherford!!
Charles Taze Russell, who founded the movement in the first place, (and I understand if you're thinking I'm speaking of a bowel movement) is not considered to be part of the FDS. He was only a fore-runner, a prophetic type (or anti-type or pattern or whatever the heck it is) of the PREPATORY work (which John the Baptist/Baptizer did to prepare the way for Jesus) and the groundwork which was then built upon/destroyed/totally demolished and changed by Rutherford.
HOW can JWs buy this?? How can they think that this makes any sense???
It seems to me that with RUTHERFORD being the VERY FIRST MAN ON THE EARTH TO BE APPROVED BY GOD/CHRIST JESUS, etc., as deserving the designation "Faithful & Discrete Slave", his life and actions should be worth examining! Especially in great, lovely, oh-so-revealing-detail. Maybe THIS would wake up some of those sleeping JWs!!
If only they really KNEW Rutherford's past and his didoes and doings and all about his mansions and cadillacs and body-guards and alcoholism and abuse of Bethel members and his rants and raves and constant ad-hominem attacks against everything and everyone that disagreed with him, and if they knew about his wealth and pomposity and devious methods to take control of the WTBTS which totally contra-indicated everything Russell wanted to happen in the will he wrote, including who should follow him after his death... if JWs could somehow SEE or find out about just this ONE MAN, without even having to go into all the JW history and changes and false prophecies and duplicity and lies and cover-ups, and scandals and pedophilia cover-ups, and secret UN membership, etc., ad infinitum, would that not help wake a few people up??
All we have to do now, it seems, is get the ball rolling about RUTHERFORD, since he is now (according to the new light!) the VERY FIRST person to be chosen by Christ as the FDS!! (even though the GB are somehow not yet appointed over all Jesus' belongings, they are the ones said to be chosen to "feed the sheep!")
the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.
if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?
they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.
Wow, such cool thoughts. Love this. Thank you. Marking.
